Fwd: [PHP-DEV] Problems with the mailing list [was: Re: [PHP-DEV]Request for karma to vote on RFCs]

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July 22, 2021 17:53 tiffany.k.taylor@gmail.com (Tiffany Taylor)
Forwarding this to internals because I mistakenly replied to an email
directly.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 2:33 AM Peter Bowyer <phpmailinglists@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > > Currently there are people with voting permissions that do vote, yet do > not interact with RFCs or the mailing list. > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:34, Bob Magic <bob@majdak.net> wrote: > > > i'd say we need something more modern and transparent than this old > mailing > > list, but i completely lack a suggestion that isn't somehow worse than > what > > we got now in terms of massively multiplayer discussion. > > > > I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to join this > mailing list and cannot. > > It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed the > different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web and > received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I created this > brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable. > > There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't. > > I volunteer to help sort this. Can someone who knows the PHP group > procedures please tell me the next steps? > > Peter >
Disclaimer: I am scanning a previous conversation while composing this email. It has been a month since I dived into this code, so this email may contain some inaccuracies, I ask for your patience in that regard. It was noted off-list that there are difficulties with subscribing to mailing lists. Ramsey and I looked at the code about a month ago, discovered that there are some broken bits around https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/7d6e63b6163e1991077822b71f7ba561e5171286/mailing-lists.php#L66-L89 and https://github.com/php/web-master/blob/819070de35a7b167766d3d64cbb0b450327eed7b/public/entry/subscribe.php#L9-L14. He was able to get the subscription code working locally while running 7.4, but the code does not work on 8.0, due to removed functions. See also: https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/layout.inc#L251 , https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/mailing-lists.php#L99. With that said, I want to invest time to resolve this, but I am currently working on other things, and thus haven't had time to volunteer to fix it. I can only speak for myself, but if someone wanted to take upon themselves to resolve this, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, note that subscription via email is possible:
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July 22, 2021 18:40 mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)
> On Jul 22, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Tiffany Taylor taylor@gmail.com> wrote: > > Forwarding this to internals because I mistakenly replied to an email > directly. > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 2:33 AM Peter Bowyer <phpmailinglists@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> Currently there are people with voting permissions that do vote, yet do >> not interact with RFCs or the mailing list. >> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:34, Bob Magic <bob@majdak.net> wrote: >> >>> i'd say we need something more modern and transparent than this old >> mailing >>> list, but i completely lack a suggestion that isn't somehow worse than >> what >>> we got now in terms of massively multiplayer discussion. >>> >> >> I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to join this >> mailing list and cannot. >> >> It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed the >> different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web and >> received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I created this >> brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable. >> >> There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't. >> >> I volunteer to help sort this. Can someone who knows the PHP group >> procedures please tell me the next steps? >> >> Peter >> > > Disclaimer: I am scanning a previous conversation while composing this > email. It has been a month since I dived into this code, so this email may > contain some inaccuracies, I ask for your patience in that regard. > > It was noted off-list that there are difficulties with subscribing to > mailing lists. Ramsey and I looked at the code about a month ago, > discovered that there are some broken bits around > https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/7d6e63b6163e1991077822b71f7ba561e5171286/mailing-lists.php#L66-L89 > and > https://github.com/php/web-master/blob/819070de35a7b167766d3d64cbb0b450327eed7b/public/entry/subscribe.php#L9-L14. > He was able to get the subscription code working locally while running 7.4, > but the code does not work on 8.0, due to removed functions. > See also: https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/layout.inc#L251 > , https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/mailing-lists.php#L99. > > With that said, I want to invest time to resolve this, but I am currently > working on other things, and thus haven't had time to volunteer to fix it. > I can only speak for myself, but if someone wanted to take upon themselves > to resolve this, I would greatly appreciate it.
I could work on this as I recently got web-php set up and working locally to be able to submit some PRs. But I assume the [PHP-DEV] list is probably not the best list to discuss this. Can someone please recommend which list this would be best discussed on? -Mike