Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake?

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March 17, 2020 08:26 nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni <jakob@givoni.dk> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: > > If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that > choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. > > Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: > COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! > > As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture > reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should > it fail. > It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote > reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. > > +1 on the idea from me! >
FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someone actually implements it. For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has been a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) Nikita
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March 17, 2020 08:44 cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker")
On 17.03.2020 at 09:26, Nikita Popov wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni <jakob@givoni.dk> wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: >>> If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that >> choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >> >> Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: >> COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >> >> As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture >> reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should >> it fail. >> It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote >> reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >> >> +1 on the idea from me! >> > > FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the > consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someone > actually implements it. > > For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has been > a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;)
If anybody wants to take a stab at this, patching the doodle plugin[1] would be the way to go. [1] <https://github.com/php/web-wiki/tree/master/dokuwiki/lib/plugins/doodle> -- Christoph M. Becker
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March 17, 2020 19:33 mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote: > > On 17.03.2020 at 09:26, Nikita Popov wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni <jakob@givoni.dk> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: >>>> If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that >>> choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >>> >>> Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: >>> COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >>> >>> As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture >>> reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should >>> it fail. >>> It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote >>> reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >>> >>> +1 on the idea from me! >>> >> >> FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the >> consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someone >> actually implements it. >> >> For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has been >> a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) > > If anybody wants to take a stab at this, patching the doodle plugin[1] > would be the way to go. > > [1] > <https://github.com/php/web-wiki/tree/master/dokuwiki/lib/plugins/doodle>
Ah, I see. So set up https://github.com/php/web-wiki locally and I'd have what I need? -Mike
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March 18, 2020 21:52 cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker")
On 17.03.2020 at 20:33, Mike Schinkel wrote:

>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> On 17.03.2020 at 09:26, Nikita Popov wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni <jakob@givoni.dk> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: >>>>> If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that >>>> choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >>>> >>>> Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: >>>> COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >>>> >>>> As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture >>>> reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should >>>> it fail. >>>> It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote >>>> reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >>>> >>>> +1 on the idea from me! >>>> >>> >>> FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the >>> consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someone >>> actually implements it. >>> >>> For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has been >>> a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) >> >> If anybody wants to take a stab at this, patching the doodle plugin[1] >> would be the way to go. >> >> [1] >> <https://github.com/php/web-wiki/tree/master/dokuwiki/lib/plugins/doodle> > > Ah, I see. So set up https://github.com/php/web-wiki locally and I'd have what I need?
It might work to install a plain DokuWiki, and to put the repo contents on top. Otherwise, see <https://github.com/php/web-wiki/blob/master/docs/README.CONFIGURE>. -- Christoph M. Becker
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March 17, 2020 19:32 mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:26 AM, Nikita Popov ppv@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni <jakob@givoni.dk> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net> wrote: > > If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. > > Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: > COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! > > As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture > reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should > it fail. > It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote > reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. > > +1 on the idea from me! > > FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someone actually implements it. > > For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has been a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) > > Nikita
Hi Nikita, What would be required to implement it? I assume it is in PHP code? What access would be required? -Mike