> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 6:54 PM Chase Peeler <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:33 PM Matthew Brown <email@example.com>
>> > What if Java suddenly said that all properties are suddenly private, and
>> >> can only be accessed through getter/setter methods?
>> > If Java announced that the next major version was to make the change
>> > 95% of userland developers favoured it and over 2/3rds of their
>> > team did, I'd think "huh ok I guess they have good reasons".
>> I call shenanigans on that 95% number. Can you please back that up?
>> Personally, I don't think it's even possible to gauge userland
>> support because the vast majority of userland developers aren't involved
>> the community at all. Those people don't even know this is being
>> and probably won't until they start looking to upgrade to PHP 8.
>> I'm sure you need to read the message properly before replying, he ain't
> talking about PHP there...
> Even 95% can be called anything(of users who are involved in the
> community, who knows, who are actual users, etc)
No, I think you misunderstood. I said "What if Java did XYZ" - The reply
was "If 95% of userland Java developers supported such a change..." That
implies that 95% of userland PHP developers support the changes in the RFC.
It wouldn't make sense to say "Well, if 95% of Java userland developers
supported the change, then it would make sense, just like we should pass
this RFC that 45% of PHP userland developers support"
> > For 20 years people have developed code based on that feature. It was
>> >> never considered an error, and often not even considered bad practice
>> > You seem to be arguing against *ever* changing something that a majority
>> > once thought was good, and fundamental to a given system. Lots of things
>> > fall into that category - restricting voting to men, segregation, etc.
>> Chase Peeler