PHP RFC: Nullsafe Calls

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June 3, 2019 08:28 jb.delhommeau@pepperbay.fr (Jean-Baptiste DELHOMMEAU)
Hello everybody,
I would like to  awaken the discussion around the RFC Nullsage Calls :
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/nullsafe_calls

In many other languages this features, tweak is available. Why not in php ?

4 years later, would you ready to relaunch the debate ?

See this tweet feed:
https://twitter.com/jbdelhommeau/status/1133268098038083585

best regards php lover's ;)

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June 3, 2019 22:52 markyr@gmail.com (Mark Randall)
On 03/06/2019 09:28, Jean-Baptiste DELHOMMEAU wrote:
> I would like to awaken the discussion around the RFC Nullsage Calls : > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/nullsafe_calls
Personally, I have my suspicions that PHP is starting to expose itself to operator fatigue. There have been quite a few suggestions made over the last couple of years that want to add new operators that would just serve as syntax sugar for a niche problem (for example, chaining) but serve to make things more convoluted than they need to be. That said, let me now proceed to be a massive hypocrite and propose a new operator, because IMO we should be looking to gain the most general benefit out of the operators that are added. Let's try and find a wider solution, for example, right now if you try to chain things that hit a null, an Error object is thrown... so maybe we could use that. There's also been lots of calls for more built-in functions to throw exceptions rather than writing notices and errors, and so the use of try / catch would become more prominent with that as well. But... a 5 line try/catch block can be a pain, so maybe we could create a shorthand that would return a particular value whenever an exception was thrown? Instead of ... try { $result = $x->y()->z(); } catch (Error $ex) { $result = null; } $result = attempt $x->y()->z(), Error => null; (I couldn't immediately think of a way of modifying 'try' that wouldn't mess the parser if opening curly braces weren't used). Derive a new NullObjectError from Error, throw it in the relevant spot, and you've now got a way of handling things where you can specify your own value. $result = attempt $x->y()->z(), NullObjectError => null; Out of it we would get a shorthand way of handling large numbers of future throws and "restore" their error-condition-by-return-value behaviour where you're more concerned that it failed, than with the actual error message. return attempt database_query('...'), DatabaseException => null; I know this is a huge tangent, I just wanted to throw it out there as a possible option for handling chaining, that would potentially kill many more birds down the road in the process. -- Mark Randall