Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] UUID

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September 6, 2017 11:08 danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd)
On 5 September 2017 at 18:24, Fleshgrinder <php@fleshgrinder.com> wrote:
> Maybe I should stop the vote. The discussion is happening now instead of > before when I asked for it. We'll have to wait for at least six months > for another vote if this is a no, due to the rules.
That would be fine and appropriate. The RFC targets 7.3. Having a discussion and vote in March gives plenty of time for getting it into 7.3 Cancelling a vote just to avoid an RFC being rejected is (imo) playing slightly fast and loose with the rules. cheers Dan Ack
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September 6, 2017 11:42 arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)
I'd seriously start considering to start doing PHP code for things like
these, so they are not bogged down by the fact that they are in C and there
is 0.5 devs interested in supporting it.

On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, 14:09 Dan Ackroyd <danack@basereality.com> wrote:

> On 5 September 2017 at 18:24, Fleshgrinder <php@fleshgrinder.com> wrote: > > Maybe I should stop the vote. The discussion is happening now instead of > > before when I asked for it. We'll have to wait for at least six months > > for another vote if this is a no, due to the rules. > > That would be fine and appropriate. The RFC targets 7.3. Having a > discussion and vote in March gives plenty of time for getting it into > 7.3 > > Cancelling a vote just to avoid an RFC being rejected is (imo) playing > slightly fast and loose with the rules. > > cheers > Dan > Ack > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
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September 6, 2017 19:56 smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)
Hi!

> That would be fine and appropriate. The RFC targets 7.3. Having a > discussion and vote in March gives plenty of time for getting it into > 7.3 > > Cancelling a vote just to avoid an RFC being rejected is (imo) playing > slightly fast and loose with the rules.
I agree. I think the RFC itself is pretty clear. Some people agree with the way it goes, some do not. If the latter are in majority, we should let the vote finish, state the result as it is and then modify the RFC (if the author or anybody else wishes, of course) according to it to make it more acceptable, and then make another vote with the new proposal. At least to me, it looks like most people (me included) agree with the idea of having uuid implementation, but disagree with the specifics of the RFC. So a modified one could have better support, but there's no reason to not conclude the vote on the current one. BTW, the RFC text does not have vote end date, please add it. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com
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September 15, 2017 16:00 Fleshgrinder <php@fleshgrinder.com>
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On 9/6/2017 9:56 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> BTW, the RFC text does not have vote end date, please add it. >=20
Done, had to move that to Wednesday, because I won't have Internet access until then. Closing it today would mean that the min of 2 weeks voting would not be achieved. --=20 Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger --9bKgs421M2ggBuc38nCVr6cbUhhUPWruV--
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September 15, 2017 16:21 zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)
Richard,

The minimal voting period is actually just one week, so as far as the Voting RFC requirements are concerned, you can close it right now.  If you want to stick to the Sep 16 deadline you announced at the beginning of the vote, someone else can close the poll, Sep 16 is just hours away.  Respectfully, it doesn't make sense to prolong it just because you don't have Internet access (plus, it's easy enough to work with wiki.php.net on 3G/mobile, from experience...)

Zeev


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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] UUID

On 9/6/2017 9:56 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> BTW, the RFC text does not have vote end date, please add it. >
Done, had to move that to Wednesday, because I won't have Internet access until then. Closing it today would mean that the min of 2 weeks voting would not be achieved. -- Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger
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September 15, 2017 16:31 me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)
> > Richard, > > The minimal voting period is actually just one week, so as far as the > Voting RFC requirements are concerned, you can close it right now. If you > want to stick to the Sep 16 deadline you announced at the beginning of the > vote, someone else can close the poll, Sep 16 is just hours away. > Respectfully, it doesn't make sense to prolong it just because you don't > have Internet access (plus, it's easy enough to work with wiki.php.net on > 3G/mobile, from experience...) > > Zeev >
If it's closed a few days later, it doesn't matter either. Regards, Niklas